Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Category:Virginia State Highways
The following discussion comes from Wikipedia:Categories for deletion. This is an archive of the discussion only; please do not edit this page. -Kbdank71 19:44, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)
There was 1 entry in this malformed category, so I created Category:Virginia state highways. I orphaned the malfomation. — Sortior 00:22, Dec 31, 2004 (UTC)
- At least in Florida, the State Roads are always referred to as 'State Road XX', with capital letters. I wish I had more info on Virginia - current stuff calls them 'Route XX', but the same is true in New Jersey while the original shields said State Highway XX. Bah, I need more info. --SPUI 01:16, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- I think the idea behind the naming is 'state highways' in general, not as a proper noun. —Mike 02:39, Dec 31, 2004 (UTC)
- This unfortunately doesn't work in every state. For example, in Massachusetts, there are many state-maintained roads that have no numbers, and many locally maintained roads that have State Highway numbers.
The state-maintained roads are state highways but not State Highways.--SPUI 19:22, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)- Can you provide any evidence that unnumbered roads in Massachusetts are considered state highways? A state-maintained road is not necessarily the same as a state highway. I don't see that this is a cause for confusion. older≠wiser 20:11, Dec 31, 2004 (UTC)
- MassHighway uses "STATE HIGHWAY ENDS" and "STATE HIGHWAY BEGINS" signs to mark state-maintained roads, not numbered roads. See [1] and [2] (under the park map near the bottom) for evidence. Now that I think of it, I'm not so sure that the numbered routes are called State Highways at all; the official site uses State Route, as does common parlance (though usually dropping the 'state'). --SPUI 20:47, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Can you provide any evidence that unnumbered roads in Massachusetts are considered state highways? A state-maintained road is not necessarily the same as a state highway. I don't see that this is a cause for confusion. older≠wiser 20:11, Dec 31, 2004 (UTC)
- This unfortunately doesn't work in every state. For example, in Massachusetts, there are many state-maintained roads that have no numbers, and many locally maintained roads that have State Highway numbers.
- I think the idea behind the naming is 'state highways' in general, not as a proper noun. —Mike 02:39, Dec 31, 2004 (UTC)
- Yes it is easier for folks to get around if the category is the same for all the states. The articles can make it clear that they are called State Routes. The route itself is a proper noun by the way, but the collective is not... so Florida State Route 1 is correct, but it is Florida state routes. Sortior 05:12, Dec 31, 2004 (UTC)
- See my response to Mike above. --SPUI 19:22, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- While an individual road may need to be capitalized the collective is not. In no state should the category be State State Higways or Routes,... the category should be lower case, the individual roads may be capitilized. Since this is a collective category, and not a proper noun it should follow standard wikipedia naming and thus be Virginia state highways. For ease of use for casual users, I would propose that it be a standard category for all states, then within the category, there can be an article describing the individual state's naming. So in Florida, the main article can say that they are called Routes, and give history etc... Sortior 20:28, Dec 31, 2004 (UTC)
- Eh, I don't understand it, but I don't really care about the category anyway. I assumed that this was being done in conjunction with a changing of all the separate articles. However, calling the categories 'foo state highways' fails on account of Massachusetts (see above). --SPUI 20:47, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- While an individual road may need to be capitalized the collective is not. In no state should the category be State State Higways or Routes,... the category should be lower case, the individual roads may be capitilized. Since this is a collective category, and not a proper noun it should follow standard wikipedia naming and thus be Virginia state highways. For ease of use for casual users, I would propose that it be a standard category for all states, then within the category, there can be an article describing the individual state's naming. So in Florida, the main article can say that they are called Routes, and give history etc... Sortior 20:28, Dec 31, 2004 (UTC)
- See my response to Mike above. --SPUI 19:22, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- By the way, a similar question is whether Interstate and US routes should be in these categories. On the one hand, they're assigned and numbered with federal approval. On the other hand, they are maintained (usually) and signed by the state. In many states, common parlance makes no distinction between different types of road. --SPUI 20:51, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- No this is just for the category. The articles should stay "as is" most if not all should be capitalized. As to Interstates and US Highways, they go into a seperate categories. Then everything gets parented to Tranportation in STATE. Sortior 22:48, Dec 31, 2004 (UTC)
- Ah, I had forgotten about the Interstates in Foo and U.S. Highways in Foo categories. --SPUI 00:08, 1 Jan 2005 (UTC)