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January 24, 2006	Good article nominee	Listed
February 17, 2007	Featured article candidate	Not promoted
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Colonial demography

Here's a more sophisticated analysis of the ethnic demography of several Southern states during the Federalist period (we don't have good data for the colonial period, although it's reasonable to assume the demography right before the Revolutionary War was not much different than it was the following decade). [1].

The English had an overall majority in the region, but there were significant minorities of non-English settlers (Europeans) and in some of these colonies/states the English were a numerical minority. The popular view of early Southern demography, which is predominately English sprinkled with some 'Ulster Scots', is more of a caricature of the actual backgrounds of these settlers (although these were the two largest groups).

And I see this section was sourced to DHF's 'Albion's Seed', a familiar pattern in these articles. Some editors on here seem to have elevated this guy to the be-all end-all authority on colonial American demography, which would be big news to contemporary historians. Jonathan f1 (talk) 15:49, 5 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delaware

Why is Delaware considered part of the South? it is not 76.202.60.124 (talk) 14:43, 5 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Because it's south of the Mason-Dixon line, and was a slave state until after the Civil War, as with Maryland. What makes you think it's not part of the South? BilCat (talk) 22:05, 5 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@BilCat The Wikipedia article on Delaware opens thusly: "Delaware (/ˈdɛləwɛər/ ⓘ DEL-ə-wair) is a state in the Mid-Atlantic and Northeastern region of the United States." So it's a valid question, in my opinion. 90.143.18.142 (talk) 22:08, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Revisionism. BilCat (talk) 00:02, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Each mention of Delaware in this topic gives enough information that the question is not necessary TEDickey (talk) 23:07, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Puerto Rico

is puerto rico part of the south? press x to doubt 158.222.196.233 (talk) 19:05, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Although not included in the Census definition, two U.S. territories located southeast of Florida (Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands) are sometimes included as part of the Southern United States. The Federal Aviation Administration includes Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands as part of the South,^[1] as does the Agricultural Research Service and the U.S. National Park Service.^[2]^[3]

References

^ "Southern Region". Federal Aviation Administration. Archived from the original on July 1, 2020. Retrieved June 30, 2020.
^ "Southeast Area". Agricultural Research Service. Archived from the original on June 4, 2020. Retrieved June 30, 2020.
^ "Contact Us". U.S. National Park Service. Rivers, Trails, and Conservation Assistance Program. Archived from the original on July 5, 2019. Retrieved June 30, 2020.

Peaceray (talk) 19:10, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Missouri

why isn't Missouri mentioned in the map? It was a slave state which just didn't join the confederates Nohorizonss (talk) 14:38, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] "Southern Region". Federal Aviation Administration. Archived from the original on July 1, 2020. Retrieved June 30, 2020.

[2] "Southeast Area". Agricultural Research Service. Archived from the original on June 4, 2020. Retrieved June 30, 2020.

[3] "Contact Us". U.S. National Park Service. Rivers, Trails, and Conservation Assistance Program. Archived from the original on July 5, 2019. Retrieved June 30, 2020.

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