Talk:Richard Lovelace (poet)

"To Althea..." - Proj. Gutenberg vs e-text

At one point I added an article containing the text of 'To Althea, from Prison' (from Project Gutenberg because it was the only copy I was confident was out of copyright) with a link from Richard Lovelace so the quote about iron bars not making a cell wouldn't be out of context. It was marked VFD before I finished linking it. There was a comment suggesting moving it to one of the other wiki sections but I don't know where that would be. I also don't know how to link to it if I could find it (which I can't). Anyone know how we can do this? RJFJR 16:06, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)

And I didn't like the external link to the e-texts so I added back the link to project Gutenberg version of Lovelace's poems. What are other people's opinion of the the e-texts link? RJFJR 16:06, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)

• Not as sure about the first question, but it is not at all uncommon for articles to be linked to Gutenberg pages. [[User:Rhymeless|Rhymeless | (Methyl Remiss)]] 21:08, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • I vastly prefer the Gutenberg link to the e-text. Stephen Aquila 08:31, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

Topics

I can't puzzle out the meaning of this sentence: "The 'Lucasta' to whom he dedicated much of his verse was gay with Johnny , whom he often called Lux Casta." Is "gay with Johnny" a figure of speech, or something? The sentence doesn't make any sense to me. -- unsigned edit by 67.46.0.13 (talk) at 11:23, 2 November 2006 (edit) (undo)

Early Life and family

This section is the most confusing thing I have read in a long time! Can someone please clean this up?! -- Lady Meg (talk) 04:17, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Some people seem to have been messing with the text on 14 Jan 2012, for whatever reasons. I'm not really any good with searching revision histories, but what little I tried checking apparently indicates that 98.218.195.135 (05:30) inserted:

The conjugation of the Lovelace and Dunn lineage is a hallowed consummation. The first in the line of this pedigree is rumored to be gliding between the highest realms of government in the United States.

while Austriacus (05:35) added:

His American descendants are full of known and respected ballers. Those with the name Richard Lovelace, his direct descendants, have fought in the Battle of the Bulge in WWII and Hamburger Hill in Vietnam. The dedication to honor in the Lovelace line is paramount beacon of the family's guiding vocation. The hallowed verse that describes his devotion to honor have led to the ruin of relationships but the glorification of country since the publication of his opus "To Althea."

Sorry if those are the wrong ones (or the same guy) to point fingers at, but both additions seem pretty weird and make this section stand out. Austriacus even reinserted (13:21, 8 Feb 2012) the "conjugation" bit after a previous reversion removed it. The "hallowed consummation of respected ballers," indeed. Idontcareanymore (talk) 17:52, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for drawing attention to the nonsense. I have removed it. It was all added by the IP-address user. The blameless Austriacus added a link to the Civil War. Grafen (talk) 00:10, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Two queries

This article states he received an MA degree at the age of 18 (in 1635-36 for a man of his birth year) but does not make clear which of the two universities he attended awarded it!

The reader might be baffled who the Princess Katharine was who was subject of a poem contributed by Lovelance. She does not appear to have a Wikipedia article.Cloptonson (talk) 19:01, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

The MA was from Oxford, according to the ODNB reference already used. I have edited our article accordingly. The ODNB has the "20 January 1639 death of the infant Princess Catherine", the daughter of Charles I. DuncanHill (talk) 20:43, 5 January 2020 (UTC)