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This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record.
The result of the debate was keep. —Korath (Talk) 02:03, Mar 20, 2005 (UTC)

Barcelona Conference

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Delete This is a very not notable conference. When I put Barcelona Conference on a google search it came up with a conference on AIDS. When I put up Barcelona Conference Solana I got a lot of religious sites claiming it was a part of Javier Solana's antichrist work. This site was almost certainly written by User:Cumbey, a self-confessed Solana is the Beast believer. She also wrote Barcelona Process[1], which was speedily deleted 2 weeks later. The only reason this piece exists is to offer evidences to Christians who think Solana may be the Beast. The fact that Google doesn't easily offer any information about it that is not from a Christian point of view indicates to me that it is not noteworthy except to Christians who think Solana may be the Beast. --SqueakBox 02:50, Mar 11, 2005 (UTC). Keep. I have changed my mind, based on the efforts of Kevintoronto especially, and the keep faction. Can I remove the delete notice?

  • Delete, not notable, rantish. Megan1967 05:50, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep. Strangely, this article now reads as being a well-written account of something that may well be notable. I suspect that this is the result of SqueakBox's edits. I don't know why it would be deleted when there seems to be so very much room for articles about Star Wars and Star Trek characters and characters and items from Nintendo and Xbox games. Kevintoronto 14:58, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)

At least we can find information about Lieutenant Uhura, etc. I cannot easily find anything about this conference except on Christian sites, so cannot even confirm whether or not what is here is true. --SqueakBox 17:32, Mar 11, 2005 (UTC)

This [2] is an article from something called the "Official Journal of the European Communities", and seems o back it up. I found this by googling "Common Strategy on the Mediterranean Region". And here is the Barcelona Declaration: [3] from the website of "The Euro-Mediterranean Human Rights Network (EMHRN)", a network of more than 60 human rights organizations from over 20 countries in the Euro-Mediterranean region. "The EMHRN was established in January 1997 with the following main objectives: to support and publicize the universal principles of human rights as expressed in the Barcelona Declaration; to strengthen, assist and co-ordinate the efforts of its members to monitor the Partner States’ compliance with the human rights principles in the Barcelona Declaration; to support the development of democratic institutions, promote the rule of law, human rights and human rights education, and to strengthen civil society in the Euro-Mediterranean region." And from the UK Office of the European Parliament: [4] I haven't waded through all of this euro-bureaucratic babble to see if the article represents it correctly, but it does seem to eb very real. Comments? Kevintoronto 22:59, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)

  • Keep but this thing needs to be sheared, way... sounds like it was written by another bloody bureaucrat in Brussels. Wyss 04:09, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)


Well we certainly have some sources now, so I may change my mind, but will wait and see if there is other input first. --SqueakBox 14:49, Mar 12, 2005 (UTC)

  • Keep. Not very well-written, but that's not a VfD issue. Clearly actually happened, clearly notable. -- Jmabel | Talk 08:10, Mar 15, 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep. The Barcelona Process is certainly notable, and very real. I am a freelance translator, and as chance would have it, I've been translating documents related to this project for the EU this past week. I understand the initial scepticism if the person who wrote the entry originally holds the peculiar belief that Javier Solana is "the beast". I'll try and spruce up the article as soon as I get a bit of time to do so. -- Jez 12:54, Mar 17, 2005
  • Clearly KEEP. SqueakBox hatcheted the article and removed the external references. This is a ten year old process which Solana himself has so often said deserves celebration for this anniversary coming on November 28, 2005. [6] There is absolutely no rational reason to delete it other than for disinformation -- not information! It was SqueakBox and NOT Cumbey who tried to integrate this with "Number of the Beast" and other assorted unprofessional references which emanated from his work, not mine, Cumbey's! --
  • I have a perfect right to bring Solana to the Beast article as there are people who think he is the Beast, including Herb Peters and Fulfilled Prophecy.com, amongst others. That is not unprofessional, that is doing good, irreproachable wiki work. What is unprofessional and in my mind unaccepatable is to try to offer proofs that Solana is the Beast. I have certainly not brought Barcelona Conference to the Beast article; I am not sure why Cumbey brought the issue up here? --SqueakBox 04:04, Mar 18, 2005 (UTC)
  • Can we drop the whole "Solana is the Beast" thing, please? It's patently ludicrous and not worthy of anybody's time. This is an article about a noteworthy social/political process and should be kept. Jez 17:42, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)

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