Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of solo cello pieces by composer: J

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The result of the debate was merge with List of solo cello pieces. Tony Sidaway|Talk 12:59, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

List of solo cello pieces by composer: J

This vote for deletion is for the entire series. I don't understand why they couldn't be represented (much cleaner) as a category. Masterhomer 08:17, 25 Dec 2004 (UTC)

• Comment: This was apparently never listed on vfd, so I'm putting it on today's page. —Korath (Talk) 03:15, Apr 10, 2005 (UTC)
• Merge or keep, turning this into a category would turn it into Category:Solo cello composers, which is not the same thing. Kappa 03:29, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Keep, lists and categories serve different purposes. RickK 05:11, Apr 10, 2005 (UTC)
• Comment: Can someone explain the difference and significance of the lists and categories? It would seem to me that categories would only list those composes who are significant enough for their own page while a list could have everyone, notable or not, entered within it. This then begs the question of why would we want to have a list of composers with those not significant enough to have their own page? No vote at this time. --Fuzzball! (talk) 05:40, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Well, yes. The idea behind categories is to deprecate (non-annotated) lists. The reality is that both lists and cats have some functionality that the other doesn't, so in practice many topics are covered in both a list and a cat. This seems undesirable, and is due for some serious revision, but that would require an upgrade to the server software first. Radiant_* 10:13, Apr 10, 2005 (UTC)
  • The whole point of (annotated) lists is to organize and merge things that are inherently short, or extremely interrelated. For instance Orc (Middle-earth) as an (annotated) list is more comprehensive than short articles on each individual orc.
  • Of course such lists require (some) watching, because if I write my own cello piece then that does not warrant me listing myself there.
  • Oh yes, and I'd like this list kept, but given the size of each lists, merge the lot of them into a single article rather than 26 of them. Radiant_* 10:15, Apr 10, 2005 (UTC)
    • Ah, thanks for the clarification. In that case I think I vote keep but merge them into one long list. If the list becomes too long it can be split back into parts again. --Fuzzball! (talk) 00:49, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Lists can include links to articles that haven't been written yet. And they can additional info to entries which cats can't. Keep per RickK. Mgm|^(talk) 10:18, Apr 10, 2005 (UTC)
• Merge those lists into one, given the small number of entries. Martg76 12:18, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Pointless list. There's already a (poorly named) Category:List of solo cello pieces, which is quite sufficient. The other letters in this series need to be deleted too, of course. --Angr/_comhrá 16:19, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Merge or Keep > as Martg76 says merge lists into one. - max rspct 19:53, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Keep the content, but I think merging them together is the best idea. Ultimately it could be a fairly long list, [1] for example providing the 20th-21st century repertoire of one performer (which notably excludes the Crumb and Hindemith, so that list is quite incomplete). Lists and categories are different animals, as others have already pointed out; lists are worth their trouble for the value of redlinks alone. Antandrus 20:06, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• It's ridiculous that List of solo cello pieces is a redirect to Category:List of solo cello pieces. An article should never be a redirect to a category. The redirect should be changed into a summary article of all the alphabetic letters combined. A list is proper here rather than a category because it should contain many pieces without individual pages. So Merge into List of solo cello pieces, eliminate redirect on the latter, no redirect on the existing alphabetic lists, and CFD the category. Finally, add pieces by Brahms and other major composers. —Wahoofive | Talk 23:32, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Merge. The point of this list is that the pieces are listed by composer, which is information that can't be practically preserved in a category. Raven42 09:31, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Merge into List of solo cello pieces by composer. --Idont Havaname 15:55, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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