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revert

sorry i reverted just now, didn't realize what i was doing. i was reverting all of User:Pokemon's vandalism and i didn't see that his last edit on this page was in May before i reverted it. sorry for the confusion.--Alhutch 23:49, 6 December 2005

PPV Wars

I have removed this poorly written section that was recently added. A whole section based on the competition between two wrestling promotions does not really belong in an encyclopedia article about pay-per-view itself. To the best of my knowledge there was only one ever real "PPV war", in 1987 when Starrcade and Survivor Series were on the same day. The content removed is covered elsewhere, such as Monday Night Wars. One Night In Hackney 02:19, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

New sectioning

I've resectioned to reflect PPV in US, vrs Europe and Australia. History sections merged--Work permit (talk) 00:43, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

UFC surpassed HBO?

"matched the once-dominant World Wrestling Entertainment Inc. in pay-per-view revenues during 2006 and surpassed boxing titan HBO"

what does it mean by surpassed? Is it saying UFC has all round beaten HBO or that it beat HBO in one PPV event, or in one year? Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't the highest boxing event over 2 million buys and the highest UFC event something like 1.5 million? In what way has it surpassed HBO? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.46.102.210 (talk) 22:53, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

They did more PPV buys in the year. HBO's biggest event surpassed UFC's biggest event, but the UFC sold more overall. It would be unfair to simply look at their largest events, since UFC has a successful PPV every month. HBO's record year for revenue was around 255 million, while the UFC in 2010 did an estimated 450 million. 80.45.152.173 (talk) 15:56, 5 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

???

Why no latin american coverage? Bias? --190.121.239.135 (talk) 22:44, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Why do the UFC get to use international buys while boxing has to use US buys only

Looks like the article is skewered to the UFC's favour here. A big chunk of the UFC's numbers come from international buys, most notably Canada and Australia. Canada is the bigger market, with the US in second, then Australia in third, then there's left overs from other countries. Why is it these international numbers are included for the UFC events yet the international numbers are completely ignored for boxing?

For example, Hatton-Mayweather is listed as 850k when in fact that's just the HBO number for the US ... in the UK the PPV provider was Sky which reported over 1 million buys. So the true number is closer to 1.8 or 2 million buys. Likewise Hatton-Pac did close to 2 million when the UK buys are included. David Haye also routinely sells over 1 million buys for his boxing matches. Also Ricky Hatton has sold over a million buys in the UK without Pac or Mayweather.

Surely if you want to use US buys only then the Canadian, Australian and global buys should be subtracted from the US. If you want to use North America only then Australian and global buys should be subtracted.

This is an unfair comparison. US vs US, NA vs NA, or global vs global. Don't skewer the numbers to make the UFC look bigger than it actually is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.71.102.156 (talk) 19:48, 17 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Really?

I doubt the following sentence is true and I want to challenge it: "In the United States pay-per-view broadcasters transmit without advertisements, unlike almost all other broadcasters", since when I watch either NBA, NFL Sunday Ticket or MLB matchups through DirecTV Argentina they are usually interleaved with a thousand commercials (N.B.: I'm using "a thousand" in the figurative sense here). It is also worth mentioning that, even though said programming begins with a disclaimer that it is available in Spanish, when I press the SAP button (the green button on my remote) nothing happens and the audio stays in English. --Fandelasketchup (talk) 10:13, 1 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Lack of clear description

Brief description leaves unclear actual nature of PPV service. In particular:

article doesn't make comparison with generic TV broadcasting (according to definition, PPV seems to be the same service), and derivative services (like TSTV, nPVR, PauseLive, etc.)
"pay-PER-view" seems to imply, that subscriber could watch particular event several times. But how it actually works, then article seems to say that subscriber isn't able to control playback moment (in contrast with VoD) ?

Detailed description chapter would probably suitable.Grain (talk) 14:39, 2 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Match numberings

Why are dark matches or matches that aired on Sunday Night Heat now listed as 'numbered' matches? I.e., the first official match of the night is now listed as 2? I understand that since the start of the Kickoff/pre-show there is reason to list THOSE matches as officialy taking place on the PPV, but dark matches and Heat? Really? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.171.103.237 (talk) 10:30, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

PPV boxing ITV Box Office

Please enter the table of paid broadcasts in the UK, the battles that took place on the new PPV channel ITV Box Office --AndreyAtanasov (talk) 14:15, 6 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The only ITV Box Office fight I could currently find PPV numbers for is Eubank vs. Quinlan, which I've added to the article. I haven't yet found PPV numbers for other ITV PPV fights. ITV Box Office also doesn't appear to have numbers on BARB, so we'd need other sources to get numbers for ITV PPV fights. If you know any such numbers or sources for ITV fights, then feel free to mention them. Maestro2016 (talk) 17:03, 8 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I can help you. I know all the events in ITV, But I do not know much English, I write articles in Russian Wikipedia. I marked them in the articles about the years in the box of Russian Wikipedia, look I do not know the language well, and maybe you can find the details of these fights. maybe you can find the exact figures of purchases of these fights.

ITV Box Office

1. Eubank Jr vs. Quinlan - (£ 13 for a broadcast purchase)
2. Eubank Jr vs. Abraham - (£ 13 for a broadcast purchase)
3. Eubank Jr vs. Yildirim - (£ 13 for a broadcast purchase)
4. Groves vs. Cox - (£ 13 for a broadcast purchase)
5. Braehmer vs. Brant - (£ 10 for a broadcast purchase)
X. Usyk vs. Briedis - The fight is shown for free, although on the ppv channel
6. Groves vs. Eubank Jr - (£ 17 for a broadcast purchase)
7. Smith vs. Holzken - (£ 10 for a broadcast purchase)
8. Usyk vs. Gassiev - (£ 10 for a broadcast purchase)
9. (Groves vs. Smith) - 28 sept. 2018 - (£ 17 for a broadcast purchase)

BT Sport Box Office

1. (Alvarez vs. Golovkin II) - 15 sept. 2018 - (£ 20 for a broadcast purchase)

supplemented information --- AndreyAtanasov (talk) 16:58, 13 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I've tried looking for PPV numbers for those fights, and couldn't find any (except for Eubank Jr vs. Quinlan which I already added). It also doesn't help that BARB doesn't have any ITV Box Office numbers. Maestro2016 (talk) 03:44, 10 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Mosley vs. Varvas II did 350k buys

Here is an article. First fight figures are in there too.

http://www.espn.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=2525430

--Mahussain06 (talk) 08:52, 8 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Maestro2016 (talk) 15:17, 18 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Inaccurate Numbers. Whatever

What Muhammad Ali fans changed this page up after he died? There is no way the numbers shown for his biggest fights were true. His first fight with Joe Frazier grossed about 20 million dollars according to Jack Kent Cooke. That was the case in 1971, and 1991. All of a sudden over 40 years after that night the number goes to over 45 million? The mainstream sources don't list that number, they aren't going to be fooled by it.

Another issue is that some of the sources don't even lead to links that back them up.

https://www.nytimes.com/1971/05/09/archives/frazierali-bout-income-near-20million-mark.html https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1991-03-08-sp-2333-story.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lewgr10 (talk • contribs) 04:05, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The numbers for the money in the Ali bouts are clearly inaccurate. The listed adjusted income of a couple fights put there to be around the same as Mayweather/Pacquiao, and Mayweather/McGregor. You can see how the adjusted revenue looks so huge compared to the big fights of the 80s, in which the numbers are accurate. I was wrong after the mainstream sources. Looks like ESPN got fooled by the false numbers for the first Frazier fight. The two sources for the revenue of the Ali-Foreman written before the fight even happened. Ler80 (talk) 12:12, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Excessive detail

Article is weighed down excessively by lists of events. Drmies (talk) 16:37, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

KSI vs Logan paul

This match doesn't even have proper sources, how is this even allowed... BoxingGuru1203 (talk) 20:03, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]