Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Sheep Shagger
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The result of the debate was redirect. This has been done. Joyous 03:16, Jan 25, 2005 (UTC)
An undergraduate newspaper at a college is rarely notable. No evidence is supplied to indicate that this particular one is. At best this would be a note in Jesus College, Oxford. (And — Lo! — what do we find to be already at Jesus College, Oxford#The_Welsh_connection?) The epithet (calling it a "title" is somewhat of a misnomer) is hardly notable, either. It doesn't just apply to the Welsh. (I've heard it used of several agrarian communities.) And I doubt that an article on it could ever be significantly more than the relatively self-explanatory dictionary definition ("one who shags sheep"). Uncle G 17:33, 2005 Jan 19 (UTC)
- To my mind, a printed newspaper in the English language (nothing ethnic there, just en. versus other namespaces, and major papers in other languages should absolutely be here) is real, hard and pretty likely to pass the notability bar - for campus media, at the very least for a merge and redirect. I was still about to vote delete as unverifiable, but by its correct name, The Sheepshagger, it checks out. Indeed, it's the newspaper of Jesus College, Oxford and is cited on three official college Admissions pages. The college is eminent but small, so borderline keep or strong redirect (there's nothing yet to merge) from The Sheepshagger to Jesus College, Oxford. Samaritan 19:49, 19 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- You didn't need to Google. I pointed out where it was mentioned in Jesus College, Oxford. As I said, my opinion was that it didn't warrant an article, merely a note in Jesus College, Oxford. And — Lo! — it already was a note in Jesus College, Oxford, before this article was even created. Uncle G 19:08, 2005 Jan 20 (UTC)
- Incidentally: The Sheep Shagger refers to the newspaper as a Scandal Sheet. (Indeed, it refers to it as a Scandal Sheet.) Having been involved in such publications when I was at university (I'm actually using the same pseudonym here as I used to use all of those years ago.) I can assure you that they are not automatically notable, by a long chalk. (I offer as evidence for this the fact that no-one has come forward and said "I remember Uncle G! You're —".) Being intra-mural gossip, they do tend to fall foul of exception #6, being only of interest to a very small group: the other members of the college at the time. Uncle G 19:08, 2005 Jan 20 (UTC)
- Here's an acid test: Does anyone, apart from the members of the college and their boyfriends/girlfriends, read the publication? Uncle G 20:19, 2005 Jan 20 (UTC)
- We had a printed English language newspaper at my middle school. -- Cyrius|✎ 17:05, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- Keep. What Samaritan said. - Jpo 01:10, Jan 20, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. Not notable. —Lowellian (talk) 07:15, Jan 21, 2005 (UTC)
- Del. N-n. --Jerzy(t) 02:49, 2005 Jan 24 (UTC)
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