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December 19

Frontispiece to A Christmas Carol

1828 – Nullification crisis: American vice president John C. Calhoun's South Carolina Exposition and Protest, written to protest the Tariff of Abominations, was presented to the South Carolina House of Representatives.
1843 – A Christmas Carol (illustration pictured), a novella by Charles Dickens about the miser Ebenezer Scrooge and his transformation after being visited by ghosts, was published.
1983 – The Jules Rimet Trophy, awarded to the winner of the FIFA World Cup, was stolen from the offices of the Brazilian Football Confederation.
1997 – SilkAir Flight 185 crashed into the Musi River in Indonesia, killing 104 people.
2013 – The European Space Agency's spacecraft Gaia was launched with the goal of constructing the largest and most precise star catalogue ever made.

Adelaide of Susa (d. 1091)
Sakakibara Kenkichi (b. 1830)
Kristina Keneally (b. 1968)
Ahmet Emin Yalman (d. 1972)

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School

Is there a reason "Loudoun County High School" returning on this day in 2005 is a noteworthy event? I found no news articles regarding the high school on Google, and found nothing on the school's site regarding the importance of the event. Sodium70mg 16:35, 19 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Probably just some self-important kid adding their own school to the article. Lkjhgfdsa 0 (talk) 23:54, 20 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Megan Jones

According to her biography, it says that Jones was born in 1967? Sounds like vandalism to me. Chris 02:51, 19 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of Verdun

When did The Battle of Verdun end ? Didn't it end on december 18 ? --213.145.115.162 (talk) 14:28, 19 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WTC fires

It sounds a bit preposterous that the fires at WTC took more than 3 months to extinguish.. --Jacob.jose (talk) 15:03, 19 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

T2 Laboratories

User:Mufka writes, "Event is not globally notable." For my future reference, how many deaths are necessary to make an event globally notable? Apparently, 4 deaths and 14 injuries are not enough. Please advise as to the threshold number to pass muster for global notability. Thanks. Art Smart (talk) 14:34, 20 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It has little to do with the number of deaths. It has more to do with the global reach of the event. It is unlikely that the event will make headlines in China or South Africa. Even if it did, it wouldn't be in the news a year from now on its anniversary. It only received a 90 word mention in the New York Times on page A24, so its barely nationally notable. It is likely that all national reporting of the event will end today. Check out Wikipedia:Notability on a global scale over time for some general guidelines. -- Mufka ^(u) ^(t) ^(c) 15:46, 20 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Much obliged for the quick reply with a useful link. Art Smart (talk) 16:02, 20 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Now that the incident has gotten continued coverage in multiple media, I've gone ahead and added the event back to this page. If Mufka still feels strongly that it is not notable enough, then feel free to delete it again. Thanks. Art Smart (talk) 14:56, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Multiple local media doesn't mean its globally notable. Of course it is newsworthy near where it happened. Every reference in the article is either the company's web site or a local news source. -- Mufka ^(u) ^(t) ^(c) 16:13, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You are correct that all references to date are from local sources. I'm disappointed that the U.S. Chemical Safety and Hazard Investigation Board has not yet posted the results of their preliminary investigation on the csb.gov website. The local news articles reported that the CSB issued their preliminary findings last Friday, so their website should be updated any day now. My guess is that the preliminary findings were handed out on paper at a local news conference, hence the local news coverage. To the extent that methylcyclopentadienyl manganese tricarbonyl (MMT) is used globally as an octane booster, and if the ultimate findings bear on the manufacture of MMT regardless of where, then this issue may have much more global importance. I favor erring on the side of inclusion, but again, if you disagree strongly, then go ahead and delete the entry. I certainly will defer to your judgement. Thanks again for taking the time to examine this issue. Art Smart (talk) 17:23, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, if the explosion has a bearing on the MMT issue globally, then it will merit inclusion. Until then it should be removed. Generally we err on the side of exclusion. -- Mufka ^(u) ^(t) ^(c) 17:27, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Altair 8800 computer

About the December 19, 1974 date for the introduction of the Altair 8800 computer on the cover of the January 1975 issue of Popular Electronics. I know the magazine was released before the cover date but I have note found a source to say it was released on the 19th. The date is close to that. In June 1975, Jerry Ogden wrote this in his Popular Electronics column.

"The break through in low-cost microprocessors occurred just before Christmas 1974, when the January issue of Popular Electronics reached readers … " - Ogdin, Jerry (June 1975). "Computer Bits". Popular Electronics. 7 (6). New York: Ziff-Davis: 69. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Swtpc6800 (talk • contribs)

It didn't meet the requirements for Selected Anniversaries, so I removed it. -- Mufka ^(u) ^(t) ^(c) 00:39, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

1606

"The Susan Constant, the Godspeed, and the Discovery depart England carrying settlers who found, at Jamestown, Virginia, the first of the thirteen colonies that became the United States."

This should state founded, not found. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.125.3.73 (talk) 13:05, 20 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Virginia Company ships leaving England is in Dec. 19 and 20 articles

"1606 – The Susan Constant, the Godspeed, and the Discovery depart England carrying settlers who found, at Jamestown, Virginia, the first of the thirteen colonies that became the United States" is in this article and "1606 – The Virginia Company loads three ships with settlers and sets sail to establish Jamestown, Virginia, the first permanent English settlement in the Americas" is in the article for December 20". At least one of them is wrong but I don't know which one. 24.249.175.130 (talk) 15:13, 20 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"Irish-born"

For 1956 we have "Irish-born physician John Bodkin Adams is arrested in connection with the suspicious deaths of more than 160 patients. Eventually he is convicted only of minor charges"... why refer to him as being Irish born? I know he was a bad man, but why refer to him as such?

The Hopetoun Blunder

The wording is either incorrect or unclear. To me it suggests the blunder was Hopetoun appointing Lyne as Premier of NSW. This is not only impossible (Gs-G commission PMs not premiers) but Lyne was already the premier of NSW. The blunder was Hopetoun choosing Lyne to be the first PM of Australia. Since there was no election, Hopetoun chose the premier from the most populated state but Lyne didn't have the support on the floor of the federal parliament. Can the wording be changed? Tigerman2005 (talk) 23:37, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]