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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the debate was nomination withdrawn by nominator after notability was established. Neutralitytalk 02:23, May 20, 2005 (UTC)
Notability not established. Establish notability by the end of the five-day period or delete. Withdrawn. Neutralitytalk 04:25, May 17, 2005 (UTC)
- Keep and expand. The sheer volume of schools being added to the VfD will test my ability to expand them all, but I have a feeling that that might be the point. High schools should not have to pass a notability test. --BaronLarf 04:36, May 17, 2005 (UTC)
- ALL articles should have a "notability test"; that's the entire point of having an encyclopedia and not a general knowledge base of trivia and facts that have no particular significant or importance or even relevance ascribed to them. Neutralitytalk 05:00, May 17, 2005 (UTC)
- Keep. Enough of these ultimatums, it will expand in its own good time. And stop this alphabetty-spaghetti VfDing while you're at it. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 04:46, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- I am systemically nominating non-notable articles for deletion. And I will continue doing so until I reach the end of the alphabet. Furthermore, it's not an "ultimatum" to demand that an article in an encylopedia meet an encylopediac standard. Neutralitytalk 05:00, May 17, 2005 (UTC)
- Firstly, you know and I know that there is no consensus of non-notability as a deletion criterion. Secondly your campaign is verging on disruption. Thirdly you demand that something be done within five days. You may deny that this is an ultimatum, but a demand with a deadline is an ultimatum. Finally, these are all perfectly good stubs you're listing. Every single one that I've seen so far. --Tony Sidaway|Talk
- Ultimatum? Hardly, to me it appeared that he was qualifying his delete vote/nomination... A pretty reasonable thing to do. You might think that they are good stubs, but you do not speak for the rest of the community. Quite a few disagree. .. But I understand why you are complaining, consider how often you close VFDs on these issues...Gmaxwell 06:11, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Well obviously I won't be closing any schools listings--I'm voting on them instead. I do think his listing is unreasonable in the context of the forty of fifty-odd others he's done in the past three days. Adding a demand that the article should "establish notability" within five days, when there are fifty other articles around, is extremely unreasonable. I question Neutrality's reasoning here--it isn't feasible that all the stubs on Wikipedia should be turned into full articles within five days or so. Moreover there is *no* consensus on non-notability as a deletion criterion. Schools that are used by thousands, sometimes tens of thousands of students over their lifetimes, and employ scores and sometimes hundreds of teachers over that time, and play a significant part in local, region and often national life, are inherently notable. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 14:36, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Adding a demand that the article should "establish notability" within five days, when there are fifty other articles around, is extremely unreasonable. Goodness me, aren't we a little slow today? What was the reason suggested for deletion? And what's the VfD lag time? Think about it. Chris talk back 08:38, 18 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Firstly, you know and I know that there is no consensus of non-notability as a deletion criterion. Secondly your campaign is verging on disruption. Thirdly you demand that something be done within five days. You may deny that this is an ultimatum, but a demand with a deadline is an ultimatum. Finally, these are all perfectly good stubs you're listing. Every single one that I've seen so far. --Tony Sidaway|Talk
- I am systemically nominating non-notable articles for deletion. And I will continue doing so until I reach the end of the alphabet. Furthermore, it's not an "ultimatum" to demand that an article in an encylopedia meet an encylopediac standard. Neutralitytalk 05:00, May 17, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete unless wikipedia wants a boring, pointless article for every average school in every country. CDThieme
- Delete, tell me something that's not obvious. Gazpacho 05:18, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep schools. Verifiable and NPOV. First, preserve knowledge, then expand knowledge. Thanks to Neutrality, I've had no time for adding content today. --Unfocused 05:25, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Kappa 06:07, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Wikipedia is not Triviapedia. Instutional vanity Gmaxwell 06:08, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, until there is much more information, any notes about Compton High school can simple go as a section in Compton, California. Luke Stodola 06:13, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete: school vanity. Jonathunder 06:50, 2005 May 17 (UTC)
- Delete unless it proves itself notable. Master Thief Garrett 07:22, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge into Compton, California and delete - Skysmith 09:12, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep.JuntungWu 12:41, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- I added a sentence, and two notable alumni. keep Lotsofissues 13:16, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. A notability standard is inherently POV. - SimonP 13:28, May 17, 2005 (UTC)
- Keep. Encyclopedic, verifiable and NPOV. Meets all agreed-upon Wikipedia standards. Like some others, I will be copy-pasting this to all the high school votes since Neutrality seems to have mass-suggested articles for VfD simply because of a POV judgment of their subject--Cynical 13:36, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep this fine little article Lupin 14:12, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep schools in wikipedia. --Howrealisreal 14:49, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, vanity. Radiant_* 15:01, May 17, 2005 (UTC)
- As CDThieme says, Delete unless Wikipedia wants a short, pointless article for every run of the mill school on the planet.--Mitsukai 15:09, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge/Consolidate into an article on the local school district. — RJH 15:33, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete You don't have to be 'straight outta compton' to see this will never be notable. --InShaneee 15:35, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep -- Longhair | Talk 16:57, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep inherently notable, good stub. R Calvete 19:16, 2005 May 17 (UTC)
- Delete. Useless collection of generic facts about an insignificant school. This is not an encyclopedia article. Individual schools are not inherently encyclopedic and there is nothing to distinguish insignificant schools like this one from thousands of nearly identical schools around the world. Gamaliel 20:15, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep the schoolcruft. Ketsuban has spoken. The debate is over. 21:00, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. Notability is still not a listed deletion criterion - David Gerard 23:12, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Only when you fail to read between the lines. Chris talk back 08:38, 18 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Non-notable. Quale 23:38, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep as with others. Christopher Parham 00:44, 2005 May 18 (UTC)
- Keep per my school article policy. Kelly Martin 01:49, May 18, 2005 (UTC)
- Keep I might note that Compton High School figures prominently in Gangsta rap. Klonimus 19:51, 18 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Trivia, no apparent possibility of becoming noteworthy. Jayjg (talk) 21:42, 18 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. I object to Neutrality's mass school vfd campaign, while policy is being worked out. I must say that this beheviour is not at all typical of administrators -- if it were, Wikipedia would be the poorer for it. Again, if there are articles for individual South Park episodes -- and there should be -- then proposing to delete articles about high schools which are important locally, if not nationally, is utterly absurd. Compton especially is important, for cultural and socio-economic reasons. Let's let this stub grow! --Zantastik 02:42, 19 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- WP:FAITH tells you to alway assume a generous margin of misunderstanding and good intentions. And please voice your (plural, if only English was like Latin...) concerns at Wikipedia:Schools instead of on every ****ing Vfd page. Master Thief Garrett 03:33, 19 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- ? It's rather obvious this is a campaign of bad faith nominations by Neutrality, he's hardly a newcomer. —RaD Man (talk) 19:49, 19 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- WP:FAITH tells you to alway assume a generous margin of misunderstanding and good intentions. And please voice your (plural, if only English was like Latin...) concerns at Wikipedia:Schools instead of on every ****ing Vfd page. Master Thief Garrett 03:33, 19 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep, need expansion. -- Lochaber 17:22, 19 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Delete nominator. CalJW 18:22, 19 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Attitude keep and delist. Non-notability not established by nominator. —RaD Man (talk) 19:46, 19 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. Hedley 20:32, 19 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. Article as it stands has a BEEFSTEW score of 8 with an enormous growth potential. Notable alumni include Duke Snider, Ken Carpenter, Kenny Howard, Jayceon "The Game" Taylor, Ulis Williams, and Woody Sauldsberry, amongst many others. Bahn Mi 01:04, 20 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong Keep - historic notability. -- BD2412 talk 02:20, 2005 May 20 (UTC)
- This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and, like some other VfD subpages, is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion, or the decision-making process should be placed on the relevant 'live' pages. Please do not edit this page.