Talk:Midland Counties Railway

Additional construction

If you're mentioning additional construction after the MCR's independent existence ended, shouldn't that go under Midland Railway? Arwel 12:05 Feb 27, 2003 (UTC)

Er probably, but I didn't see how it would fit into the Midland Railway article User:G-Man

I have put the information under the Midland Main Line article I though it would fit their better User:G-Man

"To the north, the MCR system linked with the North Midland Railway which linked their system to Sheffield and beyond." Would it better just to put "South Yorkshire" rather than Sheffield, as it gives the impression that the NMR was built to Sheffield, when it bypassed it. The Sheffield to Rotherham Railway was a different project. jjb

"transported coal from the East Midlands to London," Would the BDJR have mainly transported Yorkshire coal via the NMR? jjb

Further Comment 2006

I will returning to these three lines shortly. I note the mention of the NMR and Sheffield has gone. In fact the link was at Chesterfield, but it was originally opposed by the NMR and was only built later by the Midland.

Another line planned by the MCR was a branch from Syston to Peterborough. The merger to form the Midland happened while it was being planned. I'm planning to write a separate article which will be tied to the MCR and the Midland articles and also the present day Birmingham to Peterborough line. Chevin 15:39, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

The Midland Counties Railway : 1839-1989

Chevrin, could I please query your edit of the reference The Midland Counties Railway : 1839-1989. The COPAC search* I undertook lists Mark Higginson as the compiler of the book so that it might be refered to as:

Higginson, Mark (comp.) (1989) The Midland ....

rather than merely Anonymous. Do you have a copy of the work?

• this link might be time sensitive and not work in which case looking up UK / COPAC on the url will regenerate the link, ISBN 1-87219-400-1

I am open to the possiblility that COPAC might be in error. Best regards Oxonhutch 13:16, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Um sorry, the ISBN is as shown in the book, which does not give an author Chevin 13:32, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Note taken. I've resorted the refs so that they're back in alphabetical order. ISBN hyphenation is according to the ISBN number grouping standards with a 6 figure publisher number in group 1 (the first figure), a two figure book number and one check-sum. Oxonhutch 14:04, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Um the arrangement depends on how many numbers have been allocated to a publisher. The first number is the country. The last number is the checksum the penultimate group may be one, two or three digits, the rest of the digits giving the publisher number. 16:31, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

The hyphenation rules are nicely summarised here. For the English speaking world (zones 0 and 1) it really depends on the volumes that the publishing houses produce. Oxford University Press publishes many titles and its ISBNs start with 0-19-######-# giving that house up to 1 million individual volumes. Many small publishers (which includes many specialist railway titles) only buy small blocks of ISBNs. The Platewell Press was allocated only 10 volumes when it bought 0-9511108-#-#. An example I have is ISBN 0-9511108-8-8. Cheers Oxonhutch 17:49, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

I have been involved with ISBN's and publishing for some years. I guess its a bit academic as they are now obsolete. They also tend to be used full out without hyphens or spaces for use in data handling systems like Neilsons Booknet Chevin 18:52, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

On the subject of references, I have added the book by F S Williams, 1876, reprinted 1968 with an intro by C R Clinker, so still fairly widely available. I am struck by how closely this wiki page resembles chapter 1 of Williams book. I am guessing that many of the refs cited might have got their info from Williams. According to Clinker, the Williams book is pretty accurate. Paul Matthews 14:42, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Well I guess an accurate historical account would be very similar to another accurate historical account. However all the books quoted have been consulted except the one you've added, which I haven't had chance to look at yet, unless someone else has done it. Chevin 08:35, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Derby Canal diversion - August 1838

E.G. Barnes The Rise of the Midland Railway 1844 - 1874 gives the location as Spondon. The diverted canal was partly in Spondon parish and partly in Ockbrook and Borrowash parish. The parish boundary has since been moved and the diversion is entirely in present day Borrowash, adjacent the site of Borrowash station, hence I have changed the location from Spondon to Borrowash. Pmbarnes (talk) 14:22, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Long Eaton Junction

I think you'll find that the junction and the Trent crossing lies to the east of Long Eaton and not to the west as shown on the sketch map. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.168.89.195 (talk) 14:00, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

The sketch shows the poition of the first Long Eaton station. The present Long Eaton was formerly Sawley Junction station built sometime later. Dont take any notice of the chart thing at the top of the page. Chevin (talk) 17:24, 12 February 2014 (UTC)