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Aleksandr Loparyov

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My own searches did not yield any significant coverage in the Russian language media. No evidence of a WP:SPORTBASIC pass. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 15:20, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Adam_Arnold

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Nominating person again for deletion as this webcomic creator has not been active for a number of years and there are more notable comic creators that do not have wikipedia pages. There are even more notable people with this name that do not have wikipedia articles. Gomanga1 (talk) 14:58, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merab Garnovsky

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Has some coverage but not enough for WP:SPORTBASIC, in my view. FCPSR and Student Sport both mention him but it's really just trivial match report coverage rather than anything substantial. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 15:13, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Aleksandar Leposavić

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Had a brief career in Serbia and then Montenegro. My searches did not yield any significant coverage so there is no evidence of meeting WP:SPORTBASIC. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 15:00, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Mladen Ličina

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Played only 26 mins in the top tier of Serbia before disappearing into the lower, local tiers. My Serbian searches did not yield anything that would count towards WP:SPORTBASIC. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 14:54, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Kanstantsin Kazakow

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Despite his 2 games in the top league in Belarus, I can find no significant coverage that would count towards a passing of WP:SPORTBASIC. My searches in Belarusian and Russian yielded nothing better than the database sources much like the ones already present. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 14:34, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Ronen's golden rule for cluster radioactivity

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This rule strikes me as extremely technically specific and of interest to very few people. I can find references to it in only three sources:

Y. Ronen (1991), Phys. Rev. C 44, R594(R)
O. Tavares, L. Roberto, and E. Medeiros (2007), Phys. Scr. 76, 375
O. Tavares and E. Medeiros (2012), Phys. Scr. 86, 015201

The article has only three sentences, and I don't see what more could be added about the topic given its sparse coverage in the sources (in fact, much of the aricle seems to be wrong; as far as I can tell, Ronen's golden rule is much simpler and should be described in just one sentence). Thus, I've added a description of the rule to Cluster decay and propose that this article be deleted. Justin Kunimune (talk) 14:23, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Clarissa Wei

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Although the text provides a brief overview of her career and projects, it lacks significant coverage from independent, reliable sources, which is essential for establishing notability in an encyclopedic context. The information presented largely relies on self-reported achievements and lacks third-party validation, which raises concerns about the reliability of the content. Furthermore, while Wei may have contributions in her field, there is insufficient evidence of widespread recognition or impact, particularly in a competitive area such as food journalism. Her book, “Made in Taiwan,” is mentioned but has not been substantiated by notable reviews that would warrant an encyclopedic entry. In light of these deficiencies, the article could mislead readers into perceiving her as a figure of significant prominence, which she has not demonstrated through independent sources. Therefore, it is appropriate to remove this entry to uphold Wikipedia's standards for verifiable content and to prevent the dilution of the platform with non-notable subjects.

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Speedy Keep per WP:CSK#3. The nomination rationale seems to be AI-generated and is entirely erroneous. I checked the first three sources cited in this version of the article (Salon.com, Eater, and KQED), and they are clearly reliable sources with SIGCOV. Her book Made in Taiwan was also reviewed by Los Angeles Times and Atlas Obscura, with those reviews also included in the article. GNG and WP:AUTHOR are obviously met. The only edits made by User:Atlantaborn are removing sourced content from this article (which I have restored) and filing for its deletion. —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 14:09, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - meets WP:GNG due to significant coverage Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 14:20, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete – The article fails to demonstrate notability and doesn't reflect her standing within food journalism. Many of the cited sources do not establish a strong narrative of her influence or achievements, which is crucial for inclusion on Wikipedia. Trump4ever098^{(Talk to Trump)} 14:25, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete – Wei is more of a minor player in food journalism and writing. Although she’s done some work in this space, there just isn’t enough independent coverage from major publications that you’d expect for someone who's truly notable, besides book promotion PR. A lot of the articles come off as self-promotional, which doesn’t really paint her as a widely recognized figure in the industry. Towardsthemoon^{(Talk to Towards the moon)} 14:55, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Roshni Kapoor

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The subject clearly fails to meet the WP:GNG (general notability guideline) and WP:NACTOR (notability for actors) standards. Coverage is limited to routine mentions, and most sources lack reliability per WP:RS (reliable sources). Additionally, many of the news articles appear to be paid content and include disclaimers indicating as such. Baqi:) (talk) 13:20, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: The current sources in the article are generally unreliable, except for a Bollywood Hungama video and a Zee News article. However, the Zee News article is about the song “Tu Rooh Mein Samaya” and does not provide significant coverage of the subject. Additionally, I was unable to find significant coverage from reliable, independent sources during my search. Therefore, the article fails to meet WP:GNG, and since the subject has no lead roles in multiple notable films, it also fails WP:NACTOR. GrabUp - Talk 14:17, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Poor to unreliable sources. Fails WP:NACTOR who has not played significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions and has not made unique, prolific or innovative contributions to a field of entertainment. RangersRus (talk) 14:23, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NACTOR, TheSlumPanda (talk) 15:15, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ekaterina Ovcharenko

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Fails notability and significant coverage criteria. Tennis player who has never won a main draw title, never played in a Grand Slam tournament main draw, never been ranked in the top 250 in the world and no significant coverage of her is included in the sparse references. Shrug02 (talk) 12:53, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Solomon Etefa

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I tried draftifying the article, but it was moved back. I tried a WP:BEFORE search, but it failed. The sources in the article aren't quite formatted correctly. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 12:44, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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It is correct there is no problem with the citation or reference keep it up Pit09 (talk) 12:53, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Draftify: until such a time as the references are properly formatted, inline, and are references to actual sources not just the name of a newspaper. -- D'n'B-t -- 13:56, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mohammed Awaji

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Deleted before. No indication of meeting WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Created by notorious sockpuppet user and block evader. Geschichte (talk) 12:39, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Lucas Jester

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT with only 2-3 minutes played in Singapore and no independent and significant sources. Geschichte (talk) 12:43, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Dror Paley

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No independent article which discuss about the subject in depth, fails WP:GNG. doesn’t received any special achievement or any prestigious award. TheSlumPanda (talk) 12:19, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: as the article creator, I'm not particularly invested in this one. I basically created the article as an (unsolicited and unrewarded) favour for his then-webmaster because I thought a wikilink from Ilizarov apparatus would be better than a link to his website there; see the conversations at User talk:Szlimblengthening and my early-2009 talk page archive. I only ended up with the relevant articles on my watchlist due to unhelpful edits. I don't think I would have created this article under the same circumstances today, at least without doing a very deep WP:BEFORE check first. Graham87 (talk) 12:39, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm happy with this !vote counting as a delete, in case that makes things easier. Graham87 (talk) 06:08, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  - Maybe not, per below. Count it as nothing. Graham87 (talk) 14:17, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. With an h-factor of 66 with the top two papers being solo author with 2041 & 1766 cites he passes WP:NPROF#C1. An award or two would help, but I think the case is clear enough plus there are not a gaggle of authors in the other well cited papers. Ldm1954 (talk) 13:23, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Holographic direct sound printing

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Article based upon a 1 month old paper. While it has minor attention in pop science press, its Altmetric of 76 is not particularly high (it would need 200-300). Page is almost completely promo of research from a single group at Concardia University. Considering how active additive manufacturing currently is, much much more is required. Wikipedia is not the place to promote your science. Ldm1954 (talk) 11:07, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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This is not my science. I found about this method of 3D printing in the newspapers and I thought it probably deserves to be mentioned at Wikipedia. Arwenz (talk) 19:25, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Primary sources and churned press releases are not a suitable basis for an encyclopedia article. XOR'easter (talk) 00:16, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Unsure - for me the difficulty is that this is WP:TOOSOON (yes I know that's an essay that's not about scientific research, it just seems appropriate) so we don't know how much lasting importance there is about this discovery. I think an argument can be made for !keep given it has been peer reviewed, !delete because it is really just a small number of scientists saying it is important or !draft on the basis it might soon be shown to be important. I'm not sure how to parse it. JMWt (talk) 13:47, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: it is very, very rare to have articles just because they are reviewed, we require extensive secondary sources. TOOSOON is very commonly applied to scientific research. Ldm1954 (talk) 14:18, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well, whether or not one links to the WP:TOOSOON essay, it is too soon. Merely getting through peer review is not enough. (If it were, I could have half a dozen articles about my own work...) XOR'easter (talk) 23:27, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Josenid

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After reviewing this BLP, I don't think it meets the criteria for either WP:NSINGER or GNG. WP:SIGCOV requires high quality references with proper bylines. --Pitille02 (talk) 07:32, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete I agree that this article should be deleted. The last line appears to be a poor translation or original content from a non-English speaker. I was not able to find any references to Josenid aside from her YouTube and Instagram posts to corroborate any more recent details of her life. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mwil236 (talk • contribs) 22:23, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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1944–45 Maltese FA Trophy

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I've been trying to draftify these articles, but they keep getting moved back by the creator. The two AfDs that have run for a week and weren't relisted were redirected. My understanding is that there was a consensus at one point to have these sorts of articles, but consensus might be changing. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 11:40, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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1948 Cebu Philippine Air Lines DC-3 crash

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Per WP:GNG and WP:EVENTCRIT: Other than databases, there exists no reliable secondary sources that provide (significant) coverage of the event, no in-depth coverage, no (sustained) continued coverage, no demonstrated lasting effects nor long-term impacts on a significant region of the world that would make this event notable enough for a stand-alone article. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 11:38, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Stirling City Choir

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A purely PROMOTIONal piece for a community group that has gained no INDEPENDENT coverage in the past 167 years. -- D'n'B-t -- 11:33, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Dragon Dynasty

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I don't see how WP:NCORP is met given the sources in the article, and I wasn't able to find sources that would be enough to establish notability either. toweli (talk) 11:30, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Altani

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In a previous AfD, a clear consensus emerged that this biography did not meet WP:BIO1E, and it was merged to Tolui.

The author of the recreated article claims that this woman is identical to another woman of a similar name. This is pure original research. They claim that this source "confirms Eltina or Aylt'ana was Altani", when in reality it does no such thing: is a chapter about transliterations of names.

I suggest that this page on the "first Altani" be restored to the original merge, and see if the "second Altani" has independent notability. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 11:30, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Francise confirmed they were one and same person Ortaq (talk) 14:38, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Maroš Balko

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Balko played a total of 205 minutes at professional level before transferring to MFK Zvolen in 2015 and disappeared. The only secondary source I found is SITA, a transfer rumor to Chelsea in 2015. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 11:15, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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International Certification of Dance Studies

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Contested draft, immediately moved back to mainspace by the author. Article clearly needs more work, and should remain in draftspace for the time being. No objections to deletion. CycloneYoris ^talk! 11:11, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete I must say I'm baffled. An earlier attempt was speedied. The author then created this directly in the main space, from where it was draftified. I advised them against trying to create this directly, on account of their COI, and the next thing I find out they've gone ahead and done just that. So apart from anything else, I think the author should give some undertaking not to keep creating this, because otherwise we're just chasing our tails here. I don't think there's much point in draftifying this, as another copy already exists in the draft space; let's just figure out whether the subject is notable, and delete if not. For now, I'm saying delete as non-notable, because there's nothing in the draft as it currently stands that would suggest otherwise. --DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:01, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New Zealand Centre for Photography

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Article appears to fail basic notability guidelines. Alexeyevitch^(talk) 11:02, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Tourism in Paschim Medinipur district, West Bengal

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I can’t find sufficient SICOV coverage to support this standalone article. Most of the sources cited are YouTube videos, primary, and unreliable sources. It may be better to merge this with the Paschim Medinipur district article by creating a ‘Tourism’ section. GrabUp - Talk 10:54, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - per nom. A tourism section in the Paschim Medinipur district article will need to be rewritten and not merged. Alexeyevitch^(talk) 11:15, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kamini Yacht Club

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My first thoughts as a yachtsman were "Is there a yacht club on Hydra at all? It's a small island. ... And if there is, why isn't the club in Hydra port, the main port? Which by itself isn't big. ... And if the club was established in 1956, why don't I remember Axel Jensen or Leonard Cohen mentioning it?"

Kamini is a picturesque village at 37°20′52″N 23°27′26″E / 37.3479°N 23.4571°E / 37.3479; 23.4571,^[1] about 1 kilometre (0.62 miles) west of Hydra port. Judging by photos, the small fishing harbour has only room for 25-30 boats in the 3–10 metres (9.8–32.8 ft) range. With a max. depth of c. 2 metres (6.6 ft)^[2] the harbour would offer mooring to only the smallest visiting yachts. Which in reality I don't think it does.

Let's look at the sources. There are zero Gbook sources that mention Kamini Yacht Club. For a club that was founded in 1956, and has "secondary clubhouses in London, England and Cornwall, England for overseas members", that is inconceivable. ("Secondary clubhouse in Cornwall", yeah, right!) The article was created in August 2009. Doing a time-restricted Google search for web sources dated before 1 January 2009, there are zero hits. All other later hits are mere regurgitations of the article. (On a side note, the burgee looks like something from a kids' beach party, and IP 86.163.152.57 was about right when the reduced the stub to saying "The Kamini Yacht Club is not a yacht club." (diff).)

This article looks like it deserves to be moved to Wikipedia:List of hoaxes on Wikipedia/Kamini Yacht Club, and with an age of 15 years, 2 months and 14 days also get an entry at Wikipedia:List of hoaxes on Wikipedia#Extant for 10+ years.

References

^ "Hydra Villages". Greekacom. 19 July 2008. Retrieved 2 November 2024.
^ "Apanemi Mansion hydra, Rooms to Let in Hydra". Αρχοντικό Apanemi hydra, Ενοικιαζόμενα Δωμάτια στην Ύδρα. Retrieved 2 November 2024.

P.S. Consider joining the November 2024 backlog drive at WP:URA and find gems like this. Sam Sailor 10:38, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – even if not a hoax, this club would not meet WP:GNG. A nearly 70 year old international "organization" should have some searchable presence. This does not.--☾Loriendrew☽ ☏(ring-ring) 13:35, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kanja Odland

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Conatins no independent sourcing, and what I could find was a Dagens Nyheter interview, which is mostly about her school of Buddhism and contains scant info in Odland herself, and participation in a Sveriges Radio show on meditation practices in Sweden. Insufficient in-depth and independent coverage. Draken Bowser (talk) 09:46, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Mike Antunovic

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Article has been tagged for notability since 2012. This lawyer has participated in a couple of notable trials, but that does not make the subject himself notable per se. Muzilon (talk) 09:23, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete No significant coverage. My own searches yield nothing other than discussions of his involvement in cases and some interviews. Barring something extraordinary about his representation he doesn't inherit notability from the cases. Oblivy (talk) 11:51, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

UN Competitive Examination

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No refs on the page for many years. I'm not seeing RS that suggest the recruitment examinations for the UN are notable JMWt (talk) 08:40, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Riyasat Parjamandal

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Unable to find enough sources to show that this topic meets WP:NORG. Redirection would have been a good ATD, but the only article that mentions this party is Ghagga, a town, which seems inappropriate as a target. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:24, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - the article name has a typo, it should be "Riyasat Prajamandal", "Riyasat Prajamandal" or "Riasti Praja Mandal". Notable political movement, see [1], [2], [3], [4] --Soman (talk) 10:09, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Davy Richardson

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 08:18, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Iain Rawlinson

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Bio of a successful businessman who does not appear to me to be notable. Somewhat promotional in tone, it recounts ROTM career moves but does not seem to be anything more than a piece of PR. Mccapra (talk) 11:00, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Now Autumn 2008

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An IP address recently tried to redirect this, and was reverted. A notability tag is on the article. A WP:BEFORE search proved fruitless. An AfD discussion needs to be had. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 07:01, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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No sources, Redirect to Now That's What I Call Music! discography#Australia sometimes the IP address is right DanTheMusicMan2 (talk) 10:36, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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18 Vayasu Puyale

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There are no reliable references or review from Chennai Online for this article. Most of the sources are unreliable (Behindwoods, Indiaglitz, Filmibeat) as per [5] per Wikipedia:WikiProject Film/Indian cinema task force. Only sources are about lead actor Ajay Pradeep eve teasing at a college [6] [7] [8], which is his personal life and not about the film (passing mention).

Save the article by adding reliable sources such as Kalki review. Cinesouth review can also help. Tamil search yields nothing useful [9]. DareshMohan (talk) 07:01, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Some notable personalities are involved. The film was released and verification is possible. In this type of case, the working consensus is for standard ATDs such as redirects to director or a list of films. Here redirect (and possibly, merge) to List of Tamil films of 2007#July—September, until better sources are identified. Thanks.Mushy Yank (talk) 09:59, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete. No significant coverage and lacks reliable sources and reviews from reliable critics. Fails WP:NFILM. If any improvement with multiple reliable sources are found, I will reconsider my vote. RangersRus (talk) 14:31, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Haryana Gana Parishad

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Unable to find enough sources to show that this meets WP:NORG. PROD was contested. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:42, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep, political party that had representation in the national parliament of India. Not impossible to source, and as per the number of references it is worth noting that there isn't a lot of 1999 material from Indian press online but WP:NEXIST more sources will exist offline in Indian national news media. --Soman (talk) 09:55, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The last sentence of WP:NEXIST is "However, once an article's notability has been challenged, merely asserting that unspecified sources exist is seldom persuasive, especially if time passes and actual proof does not surface". This article has been tagged as having no sources since December 2009. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 09:59, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You're misreading NEXIST. Here is a party in national parliament, so it is reasonable to assume that there would exist offline sources available in addition to the available online sources. And lack of sourcing is not a deletion criteria in itself (apart from BLP articles). --Soman (talk) 10:36, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Haryana Republican Party

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Unable to find enough sources to show that this meets WP:NORG. PROD was contested. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:41, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Political party represented in state legislature. By no means impossible to source, and WP:NEXIST applies here as it is not very easily to find regional news from India from 2003 online. --Soman (talk) 09:51, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Siege of Smoluća

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This siege, its relief and the evacuation of the population is covered in a short paragraph in the comprehensive two-volume US history of these wars, Balkan Battlegrounds. It doesn't include much of what is in the current paragraph headed Order of battle, and when summarised would amount to a few sentences at best. A Google Books search adds very little in terms of possible reliable sources, none of which constitute significant coverage. I could trim it down to just what the source does say, but the editor responsible has done this before, and therefore this is a classic WP:TNT candidate. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 06:12, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I should add that this was a minor action in the overall fighting for the Posavina region from March 1992 to January 1993, and might be mentioned in a larger article on those operations. But it is definitely not notable on its own. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 08:44, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, i can add sources to this article if you let me. It will take a little bit of time because i am finding sources for another article Wynnsanity (talk) 09:14, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In my opinion you are not right. This is a sige and if we have siege of žepa and another smaller cities we should have for this also. Its not the minor action because a lot of civis were saved and both sides took heavy casulties. There are also not so much books about this war in english because nobody cares to be honest about balkans. I agree that is bad if we have only 1 english and 10 serb sources on english wiki but the other articles for other side also have just some tabloid blogs and they are not deleted or even marked as "bad sources", is it a coincidence? I would not say so

All the best Wynnsanity (talk) 09:23, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

All you need is significant coverage in reliable sources. They don't have to be in English. telegraf.rs isn't a reliable source, neither are blogs, fora, local town news portals with no real editorial oversight, or fanboi websites. Most of the articles being created about the Balkan wars of the 90s at the moment are incredibly poorly sourced. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 10:12, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I totally agree that telegraph is not good source. Can you give me a day or two to find better? I think that they are very badly sources because people from that area dont write or talk about it much, its "taboo". Thanks Wynnsanity (talk) 10:18, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Peacemaker, i will undo your text edit today if its okay for you because it will be a lot easier for me to work on this article if i have first version not this one, i will also add content and relevant sources to it right after. I hope you understand and dont mind. Best Wynnsanity (talk) 12:31, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No need, I was caught up with other things and neglected this article. As peace maker said, it does not need its own article since this was a part of a wider Bosnian TO campaign in Lukavac. I might also add that when I first made this article, I was very inexperienced and didn’t know anything about copyright. Orhov (talk) 14:50, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Dipali Goenka

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A promotional biography of a businesswoman fails WP:GNG and WP:NBIO. None of the sources constitute WP:SIGCOV. Also, Wikipedia is not a resume hosting site WP:NOTRESUME. Also, the entire page is dominated by company references, while her personal references are limited to either WP:ROUTINE or WP:ADMASQ. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 05:13, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment There has been some misleading promotionalism in this article: in Recognition it said "Forbes magazine named her as the 16th most powerful woman in Asia and the 4th in India in 2016", but she was listed 16th in a list which explicitly states "this list -- which is presented alphabetically and is not intended to be a ranking". (I've edited this). This suggests that all sourcing needs very careful checking. PamD 08:11, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - I’m not going to waste my time and yours with a detailed analysis of the made up in one day award and passing mentions. Suffice to say that she’s not notable. We’ve seen a lot of those pages, but in 2024 everyone knows we are not a free website listing everyone who runs a large business. Bearian (talk) 16:38, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep i am sorry but she is not the run of the mill businesswoman. She heads world’s one the largest textile companies. Forbes ranked her as the 16th most powerful woman in Asia. She has represented India at various international forums, including Harvard India and the World Economic Forum, and has chaired and served on the boards of major organizations. Agree with you and the page nomination about the promotional language in the article. Thus made significant improvements and removed promotional content/language and unnecessary sources and added more sigcov sources. There are lots of sources on google·Also created lawsuit for neutrality.she passes WP:GNG.Ashwithride (talk) 12:12, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Forbes lists her as the 16th, alphabetically, in a list of 50 most powerful women in Asia which explicitly says that it "is presented alphabetically and is not intended to be a ranking" (even if a Forbes India writer seems to misunderstand this). I corrected the statement in the "Recognition" section, but hadn't noticed that it was also misprepresented in the lead, which I have now corrected. The enthusiasm which some editors have for misrepresenting this listing makes one cautious about other claims, which should all be very carefully checked. PamD 13:06, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note that User:Ashwithride created the article and appears not to have edited any other articles in en.wiki since creating their account on 9 July 20204. PamD 13:16, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note that, in parallel, There was an attempt to remove controversies from Welspun Living's page on 13 February 2024, Welspun Corp's page got updated on 24 May 2024, Welspun Group name changed to Welspun World, and page got updated too on 12 June 2024; Dipali Goenka's page created on 10 July 2024, Welspun Enterprises' page created on 14 October 2024. Most of these pages are flagged for conflicts of interest, making it appear as if this year is especially focused on Welspun activity on Wikipedia. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 09:59, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: Ashwithride added company-related information in Lawsuits, saying that the company was sued by American retailers for selling poor-quality products that were labeled as Egyptian cotton. However, there is not much detail provided on Dipali Goenka, and the cases were not directed at her. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 02:32, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete The creating editor has not replied to my question on their talk page a week ago as to whether they had COI, so it is difficult to WP:AGF that they have none, in view of their repeated misleading claim of "16th most powerful". PamD 06:39, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Theodor-Fliedner-Gymnasium

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WP:TNT. Article created October 2024. Retrieval date on some sources showing 2019. It would just take a lot of time to go through each source. It would be more effective to get of it, then someone else can re-create it if needed. Created and edited upon by a problematic AI injector. See the talk page and Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Spam#Possible_academic_boosterism_ref_spamming. Graywalls (talk) 03:44, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: The article appears to be a translation from another language version, consistent with Wikipedia’s guidelines on cross-language contributions. The retrieval dates correspond to the original language sources, which is standard practice in translations. The content is factual, well-sourced, and enhances coverage on this topic. 2A02:C7C:EC31:4200:5935:4048:17E1:63F9 (talk) 10:14, 26 October 2024 (UTC) blocked sock Flounder fillet (talk) 14:55, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
GPT Zero says above text is 100% AI... and this is a deletion discussion about fake reference inserting AI account... Graywalls (talk) 12:23, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

*:::This not correct. It is a proper translation following standard Wiki guidelines, not an AI-generated text. Please avoid these unfounded accusations. If you have concerns, consider addressing them constructively rather than through repeated reverts and deletion sprees. 185.137.36.82 (talk) 16:22, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This IP has been blocked as a sock of the article's creator. Flounder fillet (talk) 14:53, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

*:::Both you and user Graywalls are jointly engaging in actions that appear to target and silence the main profile in the context of constructive talks. If the profile is blocked, any engagement can only occur through IPs, which may change frequently due to being away from home – this is a technical matter, not intentional. 185.137.36.82 (talk) 16:25, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Suspicious vandal-created article. If this is indeed a translation from another language as the IP claims, it is unattributed (see WP:TFOLWP) and should be deleted as a copyright violation. Flounder fillet (talk) 11:40, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
~~Keep & add the corresponding hint. Translations are common and even encouraged by the Wikipedia through the translation editor. 185.137.36.88 (talk) 12:27, 26 October 2024 (UTC)~~blocked sock --Flounder fillet (talk) 14:56, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

*:::These highly immature blocking actions, especially in the context of content-driven opinions that seek to solve the situation, constitute bullying, harassment, and silencing. 185.137.36.82 (talk) 16:28, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You are allowed to dispute your block at your account's talk page. Evading it goes against policy and will result only in more blocks. Flounder fillet (talk) 17:26, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. All that matters at AfD is whether the topic is notable, not who wrote the article or how good it is. And this one meets WP:GNG. Also look at the article on German Wikipedia. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:20, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Contrary to the argument above by Necrothesp, copyright violation is a WP:DEL-REASON. Stockhausenfan (talk) 09:46, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Operation Chameleon '93

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The supposed subject of this article is not mentioned in the comprehensive two-volume US history of the wars in the Balkans (Balkan Battlegrounds), and a Google Books search results in no hits. Even the village of Skabrnja isn't mentioned in BB. If this isn't a hoax, it is a non-notable firefight that hasn't been documented outside the village in which it allegedly occurred. It doesn't have significant coverage in reliable sources, and is therefore not notable and should be deleted. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 05:51, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Balkees Jarrah

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BLP of a human rights lawyer sourced mainly to statements she has made, comments she has offered and interviews she has recorded. Lacks independent in-depth coverage. Mccapra (talk) 05:08, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Project Shira

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As far as I can tell from a Hebrew search, this isn’t notable. A few sources covered the same announcement from the Prime Minister’s office, but nothing else. The search in Hebrew is complicated by the literal meaning of ‘shira’ so I may have missed something, but I can’t see multiple reliable sources giving this in-depth coverage. I’d be happy with a redirect but can’t think of a suitable target. Mccapra (talk) 05:00, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Asfour Crystal

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Fails WP:NCORP. I noticed this was nominated over 10 years ago with a decision to keep. However those sources fail WP:SIRS as they are not in-depth. The criteria for companies are much more stringent now. Imcdc Contact 04:06, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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E-Safety Authority

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E-safety authority, has not been formally established. While it has been approved in a cabinet meeting, this does not constitute actual creation. Wikibear47 (talk) 03:36, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment Whether an organisation has officially commenced operations or not is not relevant to notability. The fact that it is a government agency with a legal basis means it is highly likely to commence operations, anyway. We need to know whether the authority has received significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources. AusLondonder (talk) 08:15, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well a point I forgot to mention is that usually as per my knowledge after cabinet approval the act has to pass through parliament to come into force. Cabinet approval means that the Federal Cabinet has no issue with the act. Wikibear47 (talk) 08:27, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: It's a proposed entity that has received some coverage in 2023, but I don’t believe it meets NORG since there isn’t any sustained coverage. Imv, it falls under WP:TOOSOON. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 08:38, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: As an only proposed government entity, it is WP:TOOSOON for this article. - UtherSRG (talk) 11:18, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Draftifying would be an acceptable WP:ATD. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:45, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify: as an ATD. I agree with the TOOSOON concerns and there's been no coverage of this agency since the announcement that I can see. voorts (talk/contributions) 14:09, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Liz, Yes, draftification would be a good idea for now. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 08:30, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Challenger Limited

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Fails WP:NCORP. Sources do not meet WP:SIRS. Multiple issues tagged for years with no significant improvement. Was already deleted before by WP:PROD before. Imcdc Contact 03:47, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Do (administrative division)

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Unsourced stub for a word (Korean word for "province"); more suitable for Wiktionary (WP:NOTDICT). Propose redirect to Provinces of Korea. RachelTensions (talk) 02:54, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I’m happy with the proposed redirect, but you don’t need an AfD for a redirect, see WP:BRD. Mccapra (talk) 04:45, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would recommend withdrawing the AfD and redirecting. McYeee (talk) 06:17, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Elk River Mill & Lumber Co. 1 Falk

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I am unable to find any significant coverage of this locomotive in secondary sources. Only possible ATD I can think of is a redirect to Falk Archaeological District but that's not a great option as it isn't mentioned there. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 02:43, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge to Falk Archaeological District (but trim down and add appropriate inline citations). Agreed that the level of sourcing does not justify an article of this length. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 11:32, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hambone, California

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Non-notable, short-lived rail maintenance spot on an abandoned minor railroad, not a "community". A few references could be found: [10], [11], [12], but these appear to be amateur blogs and/or trivial mentions, not significant, secondary coverage in RS. Previous AfD returned no consensus, based mostly on the argument that documentation of the place exists; however, I would argue the coverage is not significant and not reliable. The place undoubtedly existed, but without coverage in RS, there is nothing we can say. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 01:25, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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A rail yard can certainly be a notable topic (I've written a number of such articles, one even made it to FA status) but it absolutely should not be treated like a populated place. A redirect to McCloud Railway appears to be the best option here in the absence of any evidence of significant coverage. I did some searches for "hambone yard" and "hambone rail yard" hoping to turn up something and came up empty-handed. For comparison, take a look at the plethora of results when I search for an actually notable rail yard. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 14:11, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Shirley Clelland

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She passes WP:NATH with seventh place in pentathlon at the 1970 Commonwealth Games but fails GNG. A search through the British Newspaper Archives just found brief mentions and sporting results. Dougal18 (talk) 14:26, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep, found several newspaper sources in just the first few pages: "BRILLIANT FUTURE FOR SHIRLEY BEGAN 'AS A BIT OF FUN'". Leicester Chronicle. 29 May 1970. p. 28. Retrieved 11 Oct 2024. "PENTATHLON WIN FOR SHIRLEY CLELLAND". Leicester Mercury. 24 Aug 1970. p. 22. Retrieved 11 Oct 2024. "SHIRLEY CLELLAND WINS TWO EVENTS". Leicester Mercury. 23 Sep 1968. p. 24. Retrieved 11 Oct 2024.

I find that the NATH guideline is pretty conservative compared to the others at NSPORT, so it's worth trying multiple search engines if you can't find sources at one. For example NATH says that 4th-placers at the Olympics can't necessarily be presumed to have coverage, but I've yet to find one without GNG sources after searching so far. --Habst (talk) 12:29, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It mainly pertains to pre-WWII Olympics, and more so for team sports than individual ones Geschichte (talk) 19:36, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but I've searched even pre-WWII Olympics to see if there's a non-notable 4th placer and have yet to find one. I agree that in general prewar Olympics were less notable, I just don't think the line should have been drawn at 4th place. --Habst (talk) 12:48, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Sources above from the newspaper archive are fine, the first two are better than the third. Should have enough for notability Oaktree b (talk) 22:45, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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