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Humor
[edit]Proving his sense of humor, Murray bragged he beat Barry Sheene up the hill at Goodwood, though admitting it was 30min before... Trekphiler 09:00, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
Famous Quotes
[edit]"Here's the red lights... and it's GO! GO! GO!"
I don't see what's wrong with this. Green lights are not used to start the race, as you might expect. The drivers get a row of red lights that stay on, then as soon as they turn off (after a short time), it's GO! GO! GO! Walker's quote seems accurate to me. AndrewAllen 03:42, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
They used green lights up to the mid-90, not sure when the quote is from.
I know its a bit late but when the green lights were used he would say: There's the lights, they're watching for the green ... and it's GO! GO! GO! - Straight down to turn one they comeMatty2002 (talk) 22:51, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
The car upside down is a Toyota The link here shouldn't be to the Toyota F1 team - the quote comes from a BTCC race in 1993.
Contradictory Statements
[edit]The article states "...BBC's voice of the new Grand Prix Masters series [1]. After providing the commentary for the inaugural race in South Africa, in January 2006 BBC Radio Five Live announced that Walker would be part of their team for their coverage of subsequent races." and then "...{Walker) is also Sky Sports' commentator on their coverage of Grand Prix Masters." Would seem strange for him to be working for two rival broadcasters? Is that correct? Any sources for either statement Alexj2002 22:47, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
Not really - Murray's contributions to Five Live were prerecorded elements and analysis, rather than live commentary. His work for Sky was a true commentary, but wether it was live or not I don't know.
Balance...
[edit]I was just reading the article, and I kind-of feel it's peretrating the image of Walker as nothing more than a buffoon... while his confused moments are rightly famous, I feel the article could do with a bit more on his skills - his enthusiasm was a big part of watching F1 for a lot of British people, and not just his mistakes... He was a big part in the rise of the sport's popularity in the UK, and did a lot of research, and was a much-loved bloke in the pitlane (if Nigel Mansell had good words to say about him...). His relationship with James Hunt is probably worth a mention too. A bit more detail on this wouldn't go amiss, such as mentioning his background in biking (was he a rider, or am I imagining that?), the gradual rise in importance of his role (didn't he only do something like two or three live races a year until about '77? Monaco and whichever British races were on?)... I'd do it myself, but most of my books are at my parents', and I don't see the point in doing a vague bit covering that lot :)
Tom Prankerd 20:56, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
- The relationship with Hunt (very prickly at first, but developing into a friendship) is extremely relevant, and I'm amazed it isn't covered at all. I'll see if I can dig out some relevant sources, since they're not too hard to find. 217.33.74.203 16:28, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
commentated ??
[edit]commentated ??? surely that must be wrong ? commented is what I think is correct —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 89.8.4.119 (talk) 23:14, 1 May 2007 (UTC).
- I don't think so. A "commenter" is one who comments, a commentator commentates.--ukexpat 15:03, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
- Oh dear, not one of Wikipedia's better articles.BennyFromCrossroads 18:52, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
WikiProject class rating
[edit]This article was automatically assessed because at least one article was rated and this bot brought all the other ratings up to at least that level. BetacommandBot 00:09, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
Factual Accuracy
[edit]This one is fairly straight forward: Murray Walker isn't dead although this article says he is. Comments please. Juxtatype (talk) 08:06, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
- That was vandalism. It's now been fixed. Thanks. DH85868993 (talk) 10:08, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Debut commentary
[edit]The article says 1949, but Murray himself says 1948 (quoted here on the official Shelsley Walsh site). I intend to add the 1948 details unless I get a good reason why I shouldn't. Perhaps 1949 was the first circuit race he commentated on? Loganberry (Talk) 18:59, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
- Given the lack of objection, I shall now do this. 86.132.140.171 (talk) 22:31, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
The Speed Kid
[edit]Murray Walker was the commentator in a television production of a film called The Speed Kid. Written by Falkland Cary and John Anderson it was broadcast on 23rd August 1956. Many of the scenes were shot at the Brands Hatch circuit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.154.10.90 (talk) 14:32, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
EXTERNAL LINK.
[edit]The Page For The List Of MW Quotes Is Not There Anymore.
Can Someone Find Another Page, Please, And Update The Link ?
Thank You.
77.54.194.11 (talk) 17:45, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
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Work, Rest and Play
[edit]Just watching a documentary on TV titled Murray Walker: A Life in the Fast Lane. Walker specifically says that he did not create the work, rest and play slogan for Mars which, as he acknowledges, many people incorrectly believe him to have done. I do realise that our article refers to the ad agency ("they") creating it but I think we should try to do better than this. I'm not a fan of citing TV programmes but would imagine Walker has refuted the oft-made claim on previous occasions. In this documentary, he says "I am traditionally associated with "a Mars a day helps you work, rest and play". But I didn't think of that slogan. If I had I would be very pleased. But I had a lot to do with 'Trill makes budgies bounce with health' ... ".
I think we need a more obvious a way to debunk the traditional association than saying that "they" (the agency) did it. In fact, if we cannot do that then I don't think we should mention it at all because it is irrelevant unless the connection specifically to Walker is made. Advertising agencies churn out slogans etc every day - that is a part of their job - and so it really is mundane to mention that the agency came up with it during Walker's time there. - Sitush (talk) 20:04, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
- Related to this, the page for Opal Fruits doesn't mention Murray as having come upw ith the 'Made to Make Your Mouth Water' slogan, which I h had always associated with him. Might be wroth looking into?--MartinUK (talk) 13:37, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
The sentence "He is credited with the naming of the late 1960s Vauxhall Ventora, and the car's original name, Ventura, was already in use by the US manufacturer, Buick." makes no fucking sense at all. The "and" should probably be "as" and it could lose a comma or two but there's no point changing it because some aspie bellend will just revert it.
WikiQuote for Murrayisms?
[edit]Could someone start a wikiquote:Murrayisms ? -- 70.51.201.106 (talk) 11:17, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
General quality of the writing.
[edit]"After Hunt died, former F1 driver and BBC pit lane reporter Jonathan Palmer joined Walker in the commentary box until the end of 1996, though in 1993 others such as 3 Time World Champion Jackie Stewart took the role as Walker's partner for the 1993 British Grand Prix and 1980 World Champion Alan Jones took the role as Walker's partner for the "fly away" race in Australia at the end of the season, both requested by Nine's Wide World of Sports (an alliance of BBC to give out in Australia)."
I've seen better structured train wrecks. And "give out", WTF? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:2788:1008:2C3:E2CB:4EFF:FE88:1A2C (talk) 16:24, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
- Feel free to copyedit it.
SSSB (talk) 18:39, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 14 March 2021
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Could you please add this link from the Guardian?
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/mar/13/murray-walker-the-voice-of-formula-one-dies-aged-97
217.213.70.31 (talk) 10:27, 14 March 2021 (UTC) 217.213.70.31 (talk) 10:27, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
- Not done for now. Where? And to what end? We don't just add links for no reason other than they exist.
SSSB (talk) 11:33, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
Military service
[edit]Walker served during World War 2. Can someone add his Military service to his sidebar? I don't know how to do it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DevBotMan (talk • contribs) 14:04, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- Have made a first stab. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:10, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
Driving Test
[edit]I remember an interview in which he gleefully stated that he had never passed his driving test. He then explained that in WW2 he was an army driver and drivers were issued with driving licenses when they left the army so he never had to take a test and therefore never passed a driving test.01:06, 24 March 2021 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.8.144.235 (talk)
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